. >> so at the end of the day, you think there will be a deal and we don't go over the fiscal cliff. >> i used to think we were going to go over the cliff. i wouldn't put it past them. there is certainly some add vantedage for the going over the cliff for democrats. they can do nothing and what happens? everything expires sequester clicks in and we start for scratch and peput forward the same damn bills, middle class tax cuts and people are put in a position where they have to vote, this is the only thing they can vote for. >> every american if they don't act, if boehner holds his ground, they -- every american every american's taxes will go up. >> that's $2,000 to middle class families january 1st and everybody will know who is responsible. right? >> right. >> president obama, john boehner right here democrats have the advantage here had a will be -- this is going to come down to what republicans -- republicans need to save some face here right? i think john boehner wants to make a deal. they all want to make a deal at the top level but they have to save some face. they can't just s